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Steve
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This topic seems to divide most conspiracy theorists trying to figure out how much NASA lies to us. For the concave earth/glass sky believer, there is the glass sky at 100km to contend with. There is good reason to believe it is at @ 100km - bottom of auroras is at that height, so are the tops of upper atmospheric lightning (sprite/elves), the Schumann resonance, and radio wave scattering all seem to point to a 100 km barrier.

I personally believe that rocketry can get past the glass, despite the Boyle's Law expansion conundrum. I think the rocket can continue propelling due to the lack of drag. The question is if they are poking holes in the glass if it is at that height. There is also speculation that the glass is simply higher.

So, if lower, can the nose cone fairing pierce through? Do they pierce through it, or simply not get that high and fall back down in the ocean? If higher, that can explain the ISS orbiting comfortably below it. I do believe the ISS is up there, and even manned. I have not been convinced the ISS is a fraud. The Zero G planes comparison are not convincing to me. If they are faking manned ISS space travel there has to be a more plausible explanation - like maybe some sort of high velocity giant clinostat underground. The green screen answer doesn't cut it for me either. There is too much floating from module to module while interaction with materials.

The doubt of the alleged quantity of satellites (thousands) up there does come to mind when we view the full moon. There are simply not enough observable transits of them. You would think you would see them constantly passing over the moon an any given full moon.

Anyway here was my video on satellites. I stand open to other scenarios however....

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REAL! --I Say: As an Audio Video Installation Specialist -I put Satellite Dishes on houses all over Johannesburg (South Africa)..most of the dishes all point mainly to the east 83degE and at about 45deg to the horizon..So if people would like to believe that this could all be done through ground based antennas or the power grid ..I would say impossible ..because if I disconnected the Dish from the receiver..then there is no signal ..then if you think it could be an electric power grid connection via the dish LNB ..then why does it keep working when there is a power outage and we use a generator or battery powered inverter (12v to 220v) totally disconnected from the power grid. I don't think they keep punching holes through the Glass Sky(GS) every launch of a satellite ..some could be just mounted to the GS (for surveillance purposes) and the other one's in Geo Stationary orbit further up --they might have made a large enough window in the GS for the rockets to fly through during the 50's with the "nuclear" tests they did "Allegedly" This could lead to the question "Why the UV rays have become more pronounced and skin cancer is on the rise? They talk about the Ozone Layer having a hole..Maybe its the Glass Sky?
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Steve
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IrOnMaN, there just has to be a better explanation than green-screening. I can't see how that is possible with all this zero g moment from module to module, interacting with people, objects. I really wish I could find some bullet-proof evidence that they fake this but the green-screen answer or underwater doesn't cut it. While yes I do agree that some of their outside footage is in pools, the interior shots seem like they are authentically moving in zero g space....whether that is up in inner space or somehow pulled off by some underground contraption, it seems authentic.

https://youtu.be/H8rHarp1GEE?t=2m37s
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Steve
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yea, i'm not sure. I just look at this stuff as not necessary to prove concave earth/glass sky reality. if they are up there, they are up there inside the earth. If not, they're not.
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Sollarmax
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IRonMan ---You could be right that the Satellite signal could just be bouncing off the Glass Spheres or something else for that matter in the Concave Earth heavens ..I would think then that the area at which you would point the dish would be quite a bit larger ..but its very precise ...to lock the dish in you have to be spot on and as you tighten the bolts on the bracket of the dish any variance depletes the signal strength..so they would have to send the signal in a very narrow beam to the position of bounce and then have it bounce back to cover a very large area back over Southern Africa --Going as high as Zambia, Zimbabwe, Namibia to South Africa. All these countries aim their dishes at the same precise position..The Glass Sphere convex surface could be perfectly arc-ed to do this I Guess --I couldn't rule it out but I'm not convinced enough to think this is what is happening .. you and so many others are right that they don't give us enough evidence that they up there ..This Debate will continue..
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Nils Esche
GMan wrote
What is the circumference of concave earth surface?
I guess it is like we are told.

The diameter of the Earth is 12,742 km.
The circumference of the earth is about 40,000 km then.

So the distance to the center of the celestial sphere is almost 6,400 km.

I personally think that the diameter of the celestial sphere is something between 4,000 to 6,000 km.
so that the distance to the border of the celestial sphere is something from 3,350 km to 4,350 km.

And the distance to sun and moon is about 2,000 to 3,000 km – plus minus.

Greetings, Nils

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GMan, a few notes. I think rockets can easily bust through the glass just like a bullet can.



I think there are may holes they made and this is why they are worried about magnetic reconnection.



I believe this is why they spray the skies, because they are worried about the ice surrounding the holes.

I believe that they are some sats but obviously not as many and not as far.

I believe they fake some sat launches, and they never get past the glass.

You haven't shown me how they fake their manned space shots.

The earth, like Nils mentioned is wider than 12k miles, it's circumference is 24,900 miles.

Joe
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yea, Joe, the cs and lower glass sky are rotating.
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Steve
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IrOnMaN wrote
Very interesting idea. I didn't know about that window of opportunity. Could this also explain why the rockets after a certain altitude start to curve? Is it possible that they curve in order to match the rotation of the glass sky and go through the upcoming hole? I am baffled!!
Well i personally think the 'apparent' curve down is due to the bending of light which causes an inversion at higher altitudes. So, the vehicle is actually still rising. I think the shuttle tries to go with as little of an incline as possible as its tail hits the ice/glass. kinda like an airplane landing, only the reverse.

I think the lower glass sky does rotate, but not very fast. I'm not sure what kind of calibration is needed for them to enter it. I guess we can search their launch logs and find out when the window arises.
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GMan wrote
Thanks steven, I just wanted to know exactly your theory. Both spinning and only two glass barriers GC and CS - correct? No more layers - right?

Sorry to question the spin. take a look at response to joe. halley's comet and such. depict that in a spin or even the planets alignment with the cosmic X to reveal heavens gate. Both would be killer to see!

Spin or static - I am still pondering hehehe I am tossed on energy!

big ball GC and CS spinning (massive energy) or just the eye. (minor energy)

I will still ponder hehehe This is fun!!!

GMan
Well, I think there is at least one more glass layer, maybe 2. I think the double rainbows suggest two glass layers above the sun.
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Steve
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GMan wrote
Thanks Steve for deleting all my post. The whole forum can now see what kind of guy you are!

You can’t take criticism!

You’re far from objective!

You’re just a guy who took someone’s research and put a spin on it - literally just made the GC and CS spin and is handy at Photoshop. That is really pathetic!

I can’t believe that you erased me!!! Just because I said you’re not JESUS and to say so is CRAZY!  I had to address the elephant in the room. You’re NOT JESUS – Get over it! Saying you are is a one way ticket to hell. Blasphemy against God! And you know how Blasphemy turns out in the bible??? Look it up!

You’re just a coward, hack! Half the stuff you say is utter BS! You’re a youtube scientist!
Thank you for doing this so that I don’t waste my intellect and experience on a nutjob, Jesus wantabe!

GMan has left the building!!!!
LOL, it's the disgruntled spammer.

As I said in previous responses to your spam message.

Skype me and cam up and name up.

If you do not you will be known as the coward you truly are.

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Travis
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From the modicum of evidence I've seen of the ISS, my opinion is that the interviews with the happy smiling actor-naughts are faked via various methods, some with zero g airplanes, some with wires and green screen, with CGI animated objects interspersed throughout.  They are a patchwork of (I believe) sloppy effects.  This doesn't necessarily rule out the ISS being a manned craft, with real techs instead of goofy bad actors.  I think the reason they show the fake interviews is that they are creating a cover story for what they are really doing up there.  I mean c'mon, experiments with floating water and bouncy balls?  lol

As for the structure of the ISS purported by NASA, the official NASA photos of the ship from their "telescopes" don't seem to match up to photos taken by amateur enthusiasts.  There is much more to indicate fakery and deception with this and pretty much all NASA puts out to the public, as can be seen at cluesforum's huge NASA section.  Their thread on the ISS alone is 82 pages long, and pretty hard to deny once you peruse all the hokey looking images and video clips.

This fakery/coverup is not too surprising considering it's the modus operandi of most media stories these days.  The sophistication of CGI software available in the commercial sector these days is so advanced, it is child's play to pass off "live action" animation that can fool the eye of most viewers.  Part of God's "crooked path" perhaps?
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TheQuackQuackLord
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Satellites are Real, but they wouldn't operate in the way you would assume.

Most Satellites are attached to the glass sky.
Some, are beyond the glass sky and face the celestial sphere and are in a stationary position. Most stay in limbo for about 3/4 years.
UK Space Agency.
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Steve
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hey there, welcome.
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Intuitive Concaver
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TheQuackQuackLord wrote
Satellites are Real, but they wouldn't operate in the way you would assume.

Most Satellites are attached to the glass sky.
Some, are beyond the glass sky and face the celestial sphere and are in a stationary position. Most stay in limbo for about 3/4 years.
I posted this on another thread.  Am I somewhat accurate?

"My theory is that there are satellites, they just don't function like we've been told.  There are some below the firmament, and probably some above.  The difference in their function as I see it, is that they are essentially flown, using advanced propulsion techniques and free energy devices.  The required components could easily be added to the satellites without anyone knowing."

Thanks for joining the forum Quack!  Please let us know what you can.
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TheQuackQuackLord
Pretty much accurate.

I'm trying my hardest to get some documents from HQ, I'll try and get them on a USB but I might have to print them out. I'll start with Satellites.
UK Space Agency.
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